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  Peace and Security to follow some day

  by Sherwood in

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  1 thessalonians 5:1-11 .

  5 now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you.

  2 for you yourselves know quite well that jehovahs day is coming exactly as a thief in the night.

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  There's about as much chance of the big A as me being pregnant and having pangs of distress.
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  "A Victim of the Delusion"

  by scout575 in

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  "i regard most church leaders however as simply the victims of the christian delusion.

  i believe the delusion comandeers the leaders' rational faculties and shields itself from the light of reason.

  i regard myself as formerly a victim of the delusion, and i regard you as still a victim of the delusion.

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  Interesting web site. The link with Dennis Mckinsey's work on looks interesting, I'll have to read through it when I have time.

  IMO those who leave the WT org but join another church or christian group have only made half the journey (maybe the easiest half in some ways?).

  I left the org not because of any particular JW teaching but from reading Thomas Paine, Joseph Wheless, David Hume, Richard Dawkins, Frank Zindler, Robert Ingersoll. That killed two birds with one stone so to speak, the myth of the WT org and the myth of christianity.
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  How can the WTS make stuff like this???

  by drew sagan in

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  i'm sure you all have seen this video, but i just had to comment on it.

  it shows off the humanitarian work that jws did in a selected part of africa.

  this is such doubble speak.

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  I don't think I can stomach watching that video at the mo'. Maybe later when my fortitude is stronger!

  We all know the witnesses do very little actual charity work and when they do it's of the reactive kind, usually to large media covered disasters where they will get maximum publicity, like Done4good said. This is in contrast to pro-active organisations like the red cross, medicine sans frontier and others who are always helping those in need and whose workers put themselves in harms way every day of the week. It disgusts me that the WT org can call itself a charity organisation.
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  Ann Coulter.

  by Blueblades in

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  what are your thoughts about her?

  there has been some controversy about her lately.

  anyone read her book the godless?.

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  Jeremy Paxman on BBC's newsnight interviewed Coulter not long back. He seemed slightly perplexed by her (not surprisingly) I think the last line of hers in the interview pretty much sums her up as a self propagandist. Watch it here -

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/5102062.stm

  If I want a right wing viewpoint and have a laugh at the same time I'll take PJ O'Rourke. Ann Coulter's a nut.
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  Creation

  by nsrn in

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  2. beliefs

  question--did i dream this, or were we taught as witness kids that the creation account really happened in 1000 year increments, and that carbon dating could not possibly be correct?

  the new 'awake' about creation has an article about how kids can defend their faith in school, but as i recall, i was programmed with different answers...

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  I seem to recall the 1,000 year increments were modified to 7,000 years so that the last creative day was 6,000 years - armageddon - 1,000 year reign. 49,000 years total for all creation! This was pre-75 though when the orgs scientific ponderings were even more barmy than nowadays.
  There have been quite a few instances in the publications about the purported inaccuracy of carbon14 dating for dating fossils. Of course this is nonsense because carbon14 is never used to date fossils as it only has a half life of about 5,000 years. Other forms of radiometric dating are used to analyze dinosaur bones and such.

  I haven't seen the new awake so I'm curious to see what nonsense is contained in it.
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  Deliverance at Hand and 1975

  by why144000 in

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  2. friends

  just looking at the wt cd and typed in the name of this years convention - deliverance at hand and was amused that the only two times this phrase was used was in the awake of april 1975 and april 1976. it was used to promote (what else!

  ) a new book chock full of 'light' (some new, some old).

  so, only 30 short years ago deliverance was at hand!.

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  Whenever I see the word Deliverance in a sentence I always think of a guy held against his will getting screwed by hillbillies. There's probably an analogy there apart from the movie link.

  Interesting find Why144000 about the language employed though. I really hope they play up this 'time of the end' BS like they did in '75, just to watch them fall flat on their face again.
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  Semi-Fluff - What is your favourite Science Fiction Book?

  by Clam in

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  for those of you who like science fiction - what is your favourite science fiction book, or indeed film?

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  I used to read a lot of sci-fi but haven't read much recently. My faves were anything by Asmiov, Heinlein, Orson Scott Card, William Gibson, Phillip K Dick, Ray Bradbury.

  The series of books that really grabbed me when I was about 12 was the Tripods Trilogy by John Christopher. I couldn't put those books down, I thought they were the best books ever. I never read them again.. wonder if they are as good as I thought they were? Anyone read those as a kid or adult maybe?
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  And I thought Brooklyn made things up...

  by frozen one in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when i heard that the rock band name kiss stood for knights in satan's service.

  heard that from the brothers.

  there were probably more, but that one stands out.

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  That's funny

  Maybe they should drink Sprite - Shiite Power Reigns In The Earth
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  One of the most irritating things you can say to a Witness?

  by free2beme in

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  my relatives that are still witnesses, always hate it when i say one thing to them, more then any others ... .

  "are you going to church tonight?

  "were you at church?".

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  Another one I use is calling the organization a social club

  lol, I've started saying that too Startingover. My parents just laugh, they know it's true.
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  The Dystopian Novel

  by daniel-p in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dystopia : 1) an imaginary place or state in which the condition of life is extremely bad, as from deprivation, oppression, or terror.

  2) a work describing such a place or state.. .

  during the past couple of months i have been reading a series of dystopian novels in which a carefully manufactured society is portrayed through the eyes of a protagonist who becomes increasingly aware of what is wrong.

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  Kudra,

  Haha I do it all the time, getting book titles mixed up then I wonder why I can't find them on Amazon I was searching for a Gabriel Garcia Marquez book "The Time of the Patriarch" and couldn't find it. I was getting 'Love in the Time of Cholera' and 'Autumn of the Patriarch' mixed up!

  I think your right about BNW and 1984. 1984 just seems so much more real and Orwell was a better writer than Huxley also. I think when I said that it hadn't aged well that was a too simplistic assessment. What I felt when reading it was that it was of it's time and was more overtly commenting on communism, fascism etc than 1984 which is more timeless, although inspired by the politics of the time. I think Huxley, while having lots of good ideas and threads in BNW, falls into the trap of having too many ideas crammed into the book and the characters and narrative are lost in this sea of conceptions that Huxley is trying to get on the page.